{"updated":"2026-10-01T01:15:34Z","content_md":"From [Blygger](https:\/\/ammdi.hyperphor.com\/Blygger#6abb19fe-d665-44a1-96bd-3c571873b0db)\n\nOK I am completely confused about the status of \"replies\" in [#Blygger](https:\/\/ammdi.hyperphor.com\/Blygger). The 0.3 spec says both \"a stub is a response\" and \"a stub is not a reply\". I don't understand the difference.  And if its too obscure for me to grasp it probably needs to get clarified if this is going to be a widely-shared protocol.  [blygger-spec\/docs\/protocol-v0.3.md at main \u00b7 blygger\/blygger-spec \u00b7 GitHub](https:\/\/github.com\/blygger\/blygger-spec\/blob\/main\/docs\/protocol-v0.3.md?plain=1#L1141)\n\n![[7n6hsjvxkny69akrhtzhqkt5j5]]\n\n![[6tz5t5b1hvp7da66e6e4q127da]]\n\n![[2hn8jdtx462hek47zcv0af83dx]]\n\n![[3gykk5qjf2bh2e5mnamfvkspc8]]\n\n![[1wy85d7mgkh99zrs6tqfpyede7]]\n\n![[7x5yvmh9c7sskkgbsv7gp4r4nk]]\n\n![[3ccyb5qt8760xv22ps1gkj130h]]","changelog":[{"version":1,"at":"2026-09-29T02:14:40Z","note":null},{"version":2,"at":"2026-09-29T02:42:00Z","note":null},{"version":3,"at":"2026-09-29T18:39:30Z","note":null},{"version":4,"at":"2026-10-01T01:15:34Z","note":null}],"transclusions":[{"id":"7n6hsjvxkny69akrhtzhqkt5j5","version":1},{"id":"6tz5t5b1hvp7da66e6e4q127da","version":1},{"id":"2hn8jdtx462hek47zcv0af83dx","version":1},{"id":"3gykk5qjf2bh2e5mnamfvkspc8","version":1},{"id":"1wy85d7mgkh99zrs6tqfpyede7","version":1},{"id":"7x5yvmh9c7sskkgbsv7gp4r4nk","version":1},{"id":"3ccyb5qt8760xv22ps1gkj130h","version":1}],"created":"2026-09-29T02:14:40Z","page":"f\/1563bb7ahney0aqqegzz122bbf\/","content_hash":"sha256:921f3183bf146c933ae7e51baa5019d39e27f3578c4c1a9429b8b101aa584fab","id":"1563bb7ahney0aqqegzz122bbf","kind":"thread","origin":"https:\/\/ammdi.hyperphor.com\/blyg\/","content_html":"<div><p class=\"source-page\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/ammdi.hyperphor.com\/Blygger#6abb19fe-d665-44a1-96bd-3c571873b0db\">Blygger<\/a><\/p><div><p><span>OK I am completely confused about the status of &quot;replies&quot; in <a class=\"pagelink\" href=\"https:\/\/ammdi.hyperphor.com\/Blygger\">Blygger<\/a>. The 0.3 spec says both &quot;a stub is a response&quot; and &quot;a stub is <i>not<\/i> a reply&quot;. I don&apos;t understand the difference.  And if its too obscure for me to grasp it probably needs to get clarified if this is going to be a widely-shared protocol.  <a class=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/blygger\/blygger-spec\/blob\/main\/docs\/protocol-v0.3.md?plain=1#L1141\" target=\"_blank\">blygger-spec\/docs\/protocol-v0.3.md at main \u00b7 blygger\/blygger-spec \u00b7 GitHub<\/a><\/span><\/p><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"7n6hsjvxkny69akrhtzhqkt5j5\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><p>will blyg about this in hopes of a response if not a reply haha.<\/p><\/blockquote><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"6tz5t5b1hvp7da66e6e4q127da\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><p>I suppose this is an aspect of the design principle &quot;this is a network of soapboxes, not a conversational medium&quot;. I not only don&apos;t like this rule, I think it&apos;s incoherent, as the confusing language indicates. Are you trying to technically legislate non-arguments? I suppose a lot of that kind of thing is tedious and boring, especially when it is across ideological lines, but calling it something else probably isn&apos;t going to help.<\/p><\/blockquote><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"2hn8jdtx462hek47zcv0af83dx\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><div><p>Oh actually I just figured out the difference (I think): &quot;reply&quot; denotes a kind of 1st-person style of direct argument, where person A and B are talking back to each other. &quot;response&quot;, or citation, implies that you are talking to a 3rd party about a 2nd party. A is talking about B to C, where C is the audience. Isn&apos;t there a senate rule about that?<\/p><div><p><span class=\"hover-tag-container\"><span class=\"hover-tag-lozenge\" onclick=\"toggleHoverTag(this)\">Ask Claude<\/span><div class=\"hover-tag-popup\"><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"813fa0fd-19d9-4603-afd8-5cafc1103048\">\n<li class=\"block\"><span>Yes, you&apos;ve hit on exactly the right analogy. Under <b>Senate Rule XIX<\/b>:<\/span><\/li><\/ul><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"d21343cd-4728-4670-9209-53356abafe44\">\n<li class=\"block\"><\/li><\/ul><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"f62362e3-965b-4139-be36-eacfdf41bab7\">\n<li class=\"block\">All speeches must be addressed to the Presiding Officer. Only the Presiding Officer may be directly addressed in speeches; other members must be referred to in the third person.<\/li><\/ul><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"0d44cdad-088a-4f81-8015-97337620ef3a\">\n<li class=\"block\"><\/li><\/ul><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"0ef1f817-7bff-4f92-b27b-5d456b4eb3fe\">\n<li class=\"block\">In most cases, senators refer to each other not by name, but by state, using forms such as &quot;the senior senator from Virginia&quot; or &quot;the junior senator from California.&quot;<\/li><\/ul><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"9cad8059-a2cb-45aa-ba43-a34eea92edc0\">\n<li class=\"block\"><span>So the structural logic is identical to your reply\/response distinction: a Senator never <i>directly addresses<\/i> a colleague on the floor \u2014 they speak <i>to the Chair about<\/i> the colleague. Senator A addresses the Presiding Officer (C) about Senator B. Direct second-person address between senators isn&apos;t the form debate takes...<\/span><\/li><\/ul><ul class=\"nondent\" id=\"5fab2052-f138-4ed4-80b5-0e6162edad5f\">\n<li class=\"block\"><span>That seems like a crisp way to clarify the spec. The distinction is real and meaningful \u2014 it might just need a sentence in the docs that makes the rhetorical direction explicit, perhaps something like: <i>&quot;a stub is addressed to readers, not to the author of the cited post.&quot;<\/i><\/span><\/li><\/ul><\/div><\/span><\/p><p><span>Yes, you&apos;ve hit on exactly the right analogy. Under <b>Senate Rule XIX<\/b>:<\/span><\/p><p><\/p><p>All speeches must be addressed to the Presiding Officer. Only the Presiding Officer may be directly addressed in speeches; other members must be referred to in the third person.<\/p><p><\/p><p>In most cases, senators refer to each other not by name, but by state, using forms such as &quot;the senior senator from Virginia&quot; or &quot;the junior senator from California.&quot;<\/p><p><span>So the structural logic is identical to your reply\/response distinction: a Senator never <i>directly addresses<\/i> a colleague on the floor \u2014 they speak <i>to the Chair about<\/i> the colleague. Senator A addresses the Presiding Officer (C) about Senator B. Direct second-person address between senators isn&apos;t the form debate takes...<\/span><\/p><p><span>That seems like a crisp way to clarify the spec. The distinction is real and meaningful \u2014 it might just need a sentence in the docs that makes the rhetorical direction explicit, perhaps something like: <i>&quot;a stub is addressed to readers, not to the author of the cited post.&quot;<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/blockquote><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"3gykk5qjf2bh2e5mnamfvkspc8\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><p>Hm maybe, I think it needs better naming or it will cause a lot of confusion. Why not &quot;citation&quot; as the primitive if that is what they are? It was explained to me as like quoting a tweet, so maybe call it a quotation?<\/p><\/blockquote><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"1wy85d7mgkh99zrs6tqfpyede7\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><p><\/p><\/blockquote><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"7x5yvmh9c7sskkgbsv7gp4r4nk\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><p><\/p><\/blockquote><blockquote class=\"blyg-transclusion\" data-blyg-id=\"3ccyb5qt8760xv22ps1gkj130h\" data-blyg-version=\"1\"><div><p><\/p><p><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><\/div><\/div>","version":4,"media":[],"blyg":"0.3"}